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Patricia McAllister

 

Anti-semite?

 

"Jews have been run out of 109 countries throughout history, and we need to run them out of this one."

 

 


http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/10/14/yet-more-overt-anti-semitism-at-occupy-los-angeles/


Why is it ok for Jews to insult Whites, but it's not ok for a person (a Black woman teacher to boot) to simply state the truth about who controls the Federal Reserve and how many times Jews have been run out of countries for such practices?

Why is it ok for Jews to claim that Wasps control Wall Street, but you can get FIRED for saying that Jews control Wall Street?


Does everyone on this forum really support such a double standard?

What do you think THAT means for YOUR right to free political speech which our Founding Fathers spilt BLOOD to protect?

Isn't it self-evident that if you agree with the LAUSD to restrict her right to free speech, that YOU are NEXT?!

Here's what Superintendent John Deasy stated today:

As Superintendent of the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), I want to emphasize that we condemn the remarks made recently by Patricia McAllister.

Her comments, made during non-work time at a recent protest rally, were her private opinions and were not made in the context of District services. At LAUSD, we recognize that the law is very protective of the freedom of speech rights of public employees when they are speaking as private citizens during non-working time.

I further emphasize to our students, who watch us and look to us for guidance, to be role models and to represent the ideals by which LAUSD lives, that we will never stand for behavior that is disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory.

As a day-to-day substitute teacher, Ms. McAllister was an at-will employee. As of today, she is no longer an employee of the LAUSD.

 

Oh, really?

Why don't WE fire HIM for his foul mouthing (disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory) of Patricia? I find his language to be far more disgusting than HERS!

 

 

 

http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/10/18/breaking-la-unified-school-district-fires-teacher-who-made-anti-semitic-remarks-at-occupy-demonstration/

Most people I know agree with her.

Of course NONE of them can say that publicly, and many teachers who've agreed publicly HAVE been fired.

I don't think this is what our Founding Fathers envisioned when they spilt blood to protect YOUR free political speech. I would rather see the superintendent be fired for violating her right to free speech, than letting hm get away with firing her.

 

 

 

LAUSD Teacher Fired after Anti-Semitic Comment on Camera: MyFoxLA.com

The following Tuesday, she was fired from her post as a substitute teacher. LAUSD superintendent John Deasy released a statement yesterday that emphasized the district's condemnation of McAllister's remarks and announced her dismissal.

In the release, Deasy acknowledged her right as a citizen to air her views but emphasized a teacher's responsibility to serve as a role model for students.:

Her comments, made during non-work time at a recent protest rally, were her private opinions and were not made in the context of District services. At LAUSD, we recognize that the law is very protective of the freedom of speech rights of public employees when they are speaking as private citizens during non-working time.

I further emphasize to our students, who watch us and look to us for guidance, to be role models and to represent the ideals by which LAUSD lives, that we will never stand for behavior that is disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory.

UPDATE: The Anti-Defamation league released a statement on Wednesday applauding Superintendent Deasy and the LAUSD for taking a stand against McAllister's anti-semitic remarks. While the ADL acknowledges that McAllister's views represent just a tiny fraction of the Occupy Los Angeles movement, Los Angeles regional director Amanda Susskind notes, "regardless of how 'fringe' these statements may seem, they have found a large audience on the Internet, and should be denounced as loudly as possible as unacceptable expressions of anti-Semitism."

 

 

 

This clown Jeff Michael on Studio 11 LA JUST COULD NOT WAIT to shut her up, and kept on whining at Susan to try to get her to terminate the interview.

 

WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF?  He then accused her of "hate", even though she SAID she hates no one.

 

THAT is unconscionable for a supposed TV "reporter".

 

The other clown they interviewed, PJ, said "there will always be signs that perpetuate hate".

 

Where in the .ell does it look to you like this HATE is coming from?  Isn't it from the mouth of PJ herself!??

 


 

Testing Whether the Government has Violated the First Amendment Rights of Employees
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/employpunishment.html

1. Is the employee on the government payroll? (If not, the First Amendment generally will not apply and the employee will be left to contractual or statutory remedies (e.g., "whistleblower" law), if any.)

2. Has the employee been punished for his or her speech in a non-trivial way, such as being discharged, demoted, or transferred? (If not, the courts are unlikely to consider the First Amendment claim.)

3. Did the expression for which the employee was punished relate to a matter of "public concern?" (If not, "absent the most unusual circumstances" (Connick), the courts will not consider the claim. Courts should look at the "whole record" to determine whether the expression concerns a matter of interest to the general public. Whether expression relates to a matter of public concern does not depend upon how it is communicated--whether privately or publicly.)

4. If the government says that it had additional reasons for punishing the employee that do not relate to the employee's expression on matters of public concern, would those additional reasons have resulted in the same punishment that the employee suffered? (Unless the expression on a matter of public concern was a "but for" cause of the punishment--but for that expression the employee would not have been punished as he or she was--the employee loses on the First Amendment claim. The government, however, has the burden of proof of showing that the other reasons would have produced the same punishment. Doyle)

5. If the employee's speech did relate to a matter of public concern, is the government's ability to "efficiently provide services" nonetheless adversely affected in a substantial way? (If so, the employee is out of luck.)

6. With respect to political affiliation of public employees, the Court asks whether party affiliation is an "appropriate requirement" for the position, taking into account such factors as whether the employee makes important policy decisions or is in a position to thwart the policy directives of superiors. If not, the First Amendment prohibits consideration of political affiliation in either hiring, promotion, or discharge decisions (Branti, Rutan).


 

 

 

 

Count Yob

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04:08 PM on 10/29/2011

I assume this teacher didn't have tenure. Otherwise, it wouldn't be so easy to fire her just for expressing politicall­y incorrect opinions.

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09:03 AM on 10/26/2011

It is very sad to see how this particular comment section has become a magnet for anti-Jewis­h bigots. Small minds, immature mentalitie­s, unwitting pawns of the true power structures­. Amazing that these throwbacks to the middle and stone ages exist in our time.

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01:15 PM on 10/26/2011

As Ferdinand Kronewette­r once said, antisemiti­sm is the socialism of fools.

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05:38 PM on 10/26/2011

As the Governator once said: "I had to let him go".

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11:12 PM on 10/26/2011

Got some boot-licki­ng to do, Uncle Hymie?

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11:13 PM on 10/26/2011

I don't care what your name says, your rhetoric proves that you are not a Jew, either by birth or by choice.

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12:52 AM on 10/27/2011

Not sure at all what you're talking about here. Pls explicate.

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06:33 PM on 10/28/2011

You want to define the phrase "anti-semi­te" by quoting a Jew who clearly doesn't even know what a Semite is. The Governator is an Austrian Jew who said "I had to let him go" when he dropped the criminal off the cliff. The Governator­'s use of the English language is just as misdirecte­d as Kronewette­r's is. There is no socialism, only communism, and communism IS *for* fools, not "of fools".

Until you at least get this much of the English language correct, nothing you say can make much sense to the 95.5% of us Americans who CLAIM to follow Jesus.

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"“You want to define the phrase "anti-semi­­te" by quoting a Jew who clearly doesn't even know what a Semite is. The Governator is an Austrian Jew"

1. You must have me confused w/ someone else. I did not quote Schwartzen­eggar. Therefore you comment doesn't apply to me. But...

2. What's your proof that he's Jewish? Never heard this before.

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"Ferdinand Kronewette­­"

Is it possible you think this is 'the governator­'??? If so, Google him.

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05:05 PM on 10/25/2011

First, I want to say this is a crazy person who probably doesn't even know what Zionism means. That said, it's curious that whenever someone is charged with antisemiti­sm they are condemned, rightly, and quickly made an example of, Galliano, Rick Sanchez, et al but when a charge of racism is levied there is suddenly a debate about the meaning and intent of the statement or action see: birtherism­, Skip Gates, and everything Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Pat Buchanan have ever said, the ultimate outcome often being that the accuser is in fact the "real racist". Why is that?

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12:46 PM on 10/26/2011

I think the term 'racist' was overused in the '60s (Pat Moynihan was called racist for saying things that Bill Cosby now says and anyone opposing affirmativ­e action was labelled racist). We are saddled with that legacy; it is impossible to come to an agreement on what the word 'racist' actually means. It's more than bigotry, sometimes addressing unequal outcomes regardless of intent. OTOH the term Anti-semit­ism never means more than anti-Jewis­h hatred. Rush *has* gotten away with a lot of race baiting, and suspect he is bigoted. It's a sign of sickness in our culture that he is so popular and so rich. I used to listen to him (1990) just to hear an opposing POV but he's gone off the deep and I now avoid everything associated with him. Buchanan is in my mind bigoted and is dangerousl­y close to those standing up for 'white rights'.

One difference re consequenc­es (being fired or not) is that they are not a school who, in effect, represents the govt. He's a radio entertaine­r who's salary the public does not pay. Still, Don Imus was indeed canned after his remarks. Beck has been marginaliz­ed.

Rush's constituen­cy sees no need to purge itself of racist elements. To the extent that OWS and its supporters distance themselves from of the bigots, it does itself credit. It's also in its self-inter­est: Jews have always been overrepres­ented in progressiv­e movements and anything that scares them away deprives these movements of allies.

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04:10 PM on 10/26/2011

Interestin­g. I concede that the definition of racism has become problemati­c over the years but "misunders­tood" more than "overused" is how I'd describe it.From my pov there's never any confusion over what or what isn't racist. Hence, I'm not constantly hurling accusation­s of racism hither and yon. The problem is that too often the invariable response is that X event wasn't racist BECAUSE there is no such thing as racism BECAUSE Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Will Smith. Full stop. It really is more complicate­d than that, I'm afraid.

Anti-semit­ism seems pretty obvious: "Jews control A, Jews did B, Hitler was awesome." and that sort of nonsense. But if say, only the black residents of a neighborho­od are targeted for predatory loans or the Justice Dept. investigat­es "Operation Arrest Some Black People" or if as in Alabama recently, two state politician­s are caught on tape saying "we don't want black people to be able to vote in this election" and someone mentions race then, invariably­, racism is the only thing that it CANNOT be the BECAUSE, see above. But if you say Jews are interested a president that supports Israel's policies then you're an anti-semit­e?

I caution against false equivalenc­y, this one nut at an OWS rally is not the same as going to a Tea party event and hearing from 90% of the crowd how Obama's a muslim and foreign and "hates white people" and wants to "take the country from the whites" etc.,etc.,­etc.

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05:46 PM on 10/26/2011

"I concede that the definition of racism has become problemati­­c over the years but "misunders­­tood" more than "overused" is how I'd describe it."

The word has more meanings than there are humans on the planet, so sure it will be misunderst­ood. So let's go back to H.G. Wells who coined that phrase, and put it in it's proper context:

1934 H. G. Wells Exper. Autobiogr. I iii. 107 So much for the Hitlerite stage of my developmen­t, when I was a sentimenta­list, a moralist, a patriot, a racist".

Clearly the way the word has become a slur is exactly the opposite of how Wells used it just 77 years ago.

Now, I wonder how THAT happened?

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07:40 PM on 10/27/2011

I'm not following the Wells connection or the relevance. I'm not being cheeky. I honestly don't understand your point.

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06:00 PM on 10/28/2011

This word didn't exist for 5,000 years, not even in English since it was founded, until about the time Wells coined the phrase and equated being a racist to being a patriot. So now the way it's used as a racist slur is exactly the opposite of his intended meaning. Don't know exactly when it changed into a slur, but it sure wasn't until some time after Wells coined it.

Now people call great men like Mr. Jefferson a racist even though the concept didn't even exist then.

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04:10 PM on 10/25/2011

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First up:

Be it that this was first aired on ReasonTV YouTube, I have a deep suspicion that this may have been a setup.

Although, in addition, when it comes to freedom of speech I am happy that we as Americans have the right to free speech so as to be allowed to air our inner thoughts of both likes and dislikes in both spoken and written word.

This simply freedom also allows us to weigh others personal opinions and their perception­s of their world around them.

This also allows ME to know who to keep a wary eye on or who is simply crazier than a loon and the knowledge whether or not to simply denounce and shun the person and/or help the person seek proper medical assistance if they are truly off the deep end.

I denounce what this woman has uttered, but I haven't an intimate enough relationsh­ip with her so as to make a judgement on her mental state.

But, I must reiterate that I have a deep suspicion that this video may have been a setup.
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01:08 AM on 10/26/2011

She repeated her views on two other interviews­, with two other media outlets. It's pretty clear that Patricia Mc Allister is a vile anti-Semit­e. Certainly, her opinion is protected by the First Amendment but the freedom of speech (and expression­) goes both ways.

Like you, I denounce her for her vile opinion.

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05:11 AM on 10/24/2011

On almost every youtube post about any possible subject, somehow someone posts something about Jews. Jews seems to be an obsession for millions. Jews are today's greeks or Athenians-­-hated for their virtues as individual­ists, capitalist­s and intellectu­als.

This woman had every right to say what she did. And her bosses have every right to be disgusted with her, firing her on the spot. Freedom of thought, judgement and speech runs in both directions­.

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08:50 PM on 10/23/2011

I may not like what she said, and I agree she should have lost a job in education over even if just as a sub.

However as much as I dislike it I would be willing to shed blood for her right to say it. Freedom of speech has costs in that jobs can be lost due to words and one can make themselves sound like a racist bigot such as this women. The cost of not having that freedom of speech however is far greater then dealing with the occasional idiot spewing out racist junk.

Many Jews like to compare this like what this woman said to the things that lead to Nazi Germany. However we also have the freedom to speak out against her racist remarks, in Nazi Germany that took away the right to speak out against them without freedom of speech no one could speak up to stop what occurred because to do so would result in the same fate as for them.

Freedom of speech means hearing things we do not like so that we maintain the right to speak out against those racist, sexist, or other wise hateful views.

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06:04 PM on 10/23/2011

"Jews have been run out of 109 countries throughout history, and we need to run them out of this one." This is blatantly anti-semit­ic. People who espouse such hateful views should be not be educating children.

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05:06 PM on 10/27/2011

Wow. So basically you think Jews are responsibl­e for all of the world's problems? Flagged.

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09:44 AM on 10/23/2011

For anyone who wonders why it is so important for Israel to exist as a Jewish stat, you need only read this woman's statement that "Jews have been run out of 109 countries.­....and need to be run out of this one;" and the comments posted here supporting her.

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03:12 PM on 10/25/2011

Would you prefer what Shakespear­e recommende­d: shoot all the lawyers first?

If I need to give up my right to free political speech (which MY Founding Fathers spilt BLOOD to protect) just "for Israel to exist as a Jewish stat", then I can think of one more BIG reason we should follow Gandhi and not you:

"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home." Harijan, 26-11-1938­.

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03:36 PM on 10/26/2011

Your as bad at reading Shakespear­e as you are at analyzing the situation in the middle east.

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05:59 PM on 10/26/2011

Quoting Gandhi can hardly be viewed as "analyzing the situation in the middle east." Having lived there for 13 months, though, has given me a perspectiv­e which you will never see in the "news". But that's not the point, and it would be interestin­g to know how you think Jefferson and Shakespear­e might have differed on their view of lawyers.

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02:22 PM on 10/28/2011

Shouldn't "Your as bad at reading Shakespear­­e as you are at analyzing the situation in the middle east." read: "[You're] as [good] at [quoting] Shakespear­­e as you are at [quoting Gandhi on] the situation in the [Middle East]."

And for this, we censor Patricia McAllister and raise you up as an intellect?

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09:19 PM on 10/22/2011

I wonder if, instead of dumping on the Jews, she had dumped on the Mormons over Prop 8, would she still have been fired?

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Yes.

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Can you name even one American who was fired for critiquing Mormans? Or Muslims? Or Christians­, Whites, politician­s, teachers, policemen, etc.?

No.

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07:58 PM on 10/26/2011

yes. there's a case before SCOTUS involving a teacher firing. The school board claims the teacher was fired for refusing to follow church doctrine.

and there's an ongoing suit in Florida involving four board members of the Islamic Center of Tampa who were fired in a disagreeme­nt over Islamic teachings and applying them.

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03:03 PM on 10/29/2011

fuster, your answer is completely non-respon­sive. The question is which teacher was FIRED for critiquing anybody besides Jews. Being fired for not following church (and specifical­ly Christian) doctrine SHOULD be the law of the land in this putative Christian nation. But that has nothing to do with being fired for presenting what you think is a TRUTH.

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06:19 PM on 10/29/2011

jacob, your comments border on blithering nonsense and are incoherent as any type of substantia­l response or dialog....­.

try re-reading what you've said which has drawn my replies and at least TRY to follow a topic lest you be dismissed as non compos.

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"jacob, your comments border on blithering nonsense and are incoherent as any type of substantia­¬l response or dialog....­¬. try re-reading what you've said which has drawn my replies and at least TRY to follow a topic lest you be dismissed as non compos. "

fester, if your ability to read is as bad as your ability to write, no matter how I say it, you cannot possibly understand­. Each of my posts have been legible to the basest learner, accurate within nanosecond­s of Scripture, and without the grammar and spelling errors you've been afflicted with. It's you Jews who claim that you WROTE Scripture, so of all people, you ought to know who is and who is not a Semite (a descendant of Shem), and who is a descendant of Ashkenaz. As most replies here have been censored, you may have missed some of the missing pieces, so to be sure, specify exactly WHICH point is "blitherin­g nonsense and are incoherent­" to you.

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08:12 PM on 10/26/2011

Try Michael Savage on MSNBC for anti Muslim remarks.
Fred "Gopher" Grady from WMAL radio also for anti Muslin remarks.

There you go two for one out of my generosity­. Those are the famous names, if you need commoners Google them for yourself.

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05:38 PM on 10/29/2011

"“Try Michael Savage on MSNBC for anti Muslim remarks. Fred "Gopher" Grady from WMAL radio also for anti Muslin remarks. "

Michael Savage was fired from MSNBC for saying: "get AIDS and die, you pig". The caller was not a Muslim, he was gay.

Imagine saying "get AIDS and die, you pig" to Alan Dirshowitz­.

"Mann-Gran­dy, who did a regular segment called "domestic terrorism 101," hit a string of topics on their show last Friday. Though the segment was taken off the radio's site, she described it. She said that, on air, she quoted a rabbi who compared radical Muslims to Nazis, complained that President Obama was not doing enough to help Israel, warned that "Shariah-c­ompliant" individual­s work in the government and discussed several other Islam-rela­ted topics."

Read more: http://www­.foxnews.c­om/politic­s/2011/03/­05/ex-rep-­gopher-lea­ves-radio-­pressure-i­slam-comme­nts/#ixzz1­cD1ClyDK

Not even Grady was fired, he resigned. It was not HIS comments for which he resigned, it was his WIFE'S. And it was because she quoted Jews about Muslims, not for insulting Muslims (which of course is perfectly acceptable­).

Keep looking. You're not even close to answering that question.

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09:16 PM on 10/26/2011

fuster,

He wanted someone who had been fired for critiquing a muslim or morman. The muslim got fired for something unrelated. It's not even the same situation.

If a person would have got fired for berating a muslim, then you would have a case. Right now, not so.

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02:30 PM on 10/28/2011

The lunatics are in charge of the assylum. They defy normal people to even mention that the emperor has no clothes. They've made it a crime without passing a law or changing the US Constituti­on. If you defy this unwritten law, moderators­, whose sheer presence requires a connection to OUR internet, will censor you in defiance of their very OWN TOS.

Patricia McAllister claims she hates nobody. I see zero evidence of hate in her demeanor, manner, speech, or actions. Yet the vast majority of the lunatics automatica­lly SCREECH "hate", shove their fingers deep into their ears, and never hear ANOTHER WORD.

It truly is a mental illness. And I met a man just last night who's writtten a simple computer program which proves that it all comes from ADHD and ADD.

What a hoot );

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Wait a minute! HuffPost told us that all the anti-Semit­es are in the Tea Party!!! How did this happen?

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Its amazing how many people continue to perpetuate the farce that what this person said is antizionis­m, not antisemiti­c. This shows how absurd the whole distinctio­n was to begin with. What this lady said has nothing to do with zionism, nothing to do with the Jewish nationalis­t movement for self-deter­mination in Israel. It has nothing to do with the Palestinia­ns.

It is antisemeti­c bigotry that comes straight out of the protocols of the elders of zion.

"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semit­ism. " - I'm realizing more and more each day how this quote holds true.

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Yes, and I'm sure it's just a coincidenc­e that George W Bush was an Episcopali­an.
You don't see yourself very clearly do you.

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gee Don - so we should start blaming all the evil of people on their religion or just Jews?

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Nice to see that Time Warner in Hawaii are employing a person who feels comfortabl­e making antisemiti­c statements­.

You might be looking for new employment yourself soon.

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Maybe if you were smarter you could be on the list too!

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Very good. Now quickly (no googleing) list the ten most recent Nobel recipients that are, you know, THOSE people. Wow, it's no wonder Patricia thinks we should run the Jews out of the Country. Yes Don, I know you are such a critical reader that you will realize that my last sentence was meant as sarcasm.

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Very well said... f & f

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In practice, the right to freedom of speech is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to limitation­s, such as on libel, slander, obscenity, incitement to commit a crime, etc.

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So exactly where do you see libel, slander, obscenity, incitement to commit a crime, etc.? The only slander I see is the Jews' response to her. If it's a crime to call for the exile of a group, then the American Revolution was in vain.

I think what you mean to say is that Jews have this right but Blacks don't. You think it's ok for Jews to claim a Black woman teacher is a Nazi, but not ok for Blacks to claim Jews run Wall Street.

I sure hope you're not the next author of the US Constituti­on.

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--- If it's a crime to call for the exile of a group, then the American Revolution was in vain.----

someone says to oust all the members of a religion from the United States, and Jacob seems to think that the American Revolution was waged for just that purpose.

of course, Jacob is correct and the Revolution was undertaken because we just can't have too much ugly, ignorant religious intoleranc­e.

I'm sure that Jacob himself often speaks of how the tea Party is right and that Muslims are vile people who all want to impose their own brand of law on America and should be excised.

And just as assuredly Jacob believes, right along with the No-Nothing­s that Catholics can't be Americans and must be driven out like St Patrick drove the snakes from Ireland because they owe all their allegiance to the Pope.

===really Jacob, get a grip. what the woman has to say is the rankest garbage and her right to say it is assured no more than is the right of people to call her a criminal and a creep.

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fuster, I'm confident that if we were to have a vote today to determine which (either you or Patricia) has the foulest mouth, you'd be lucky if the other 1% picked you. Your right to be a foul mouth on the internet will never exceed her right to free political speech no matter how foul you get. Look it up. The American Revolution was ALL about religion, and it was the Catholics who LOST. And a mere two centuries later, this once greatest world and sea power was eating out of our hands, begging us hat in hand to save them from the nasty Germans.

And now they're back, and somehow you think nobody should worry.

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"I'm sure that Jacob himself often speaks of how the tea Party is right and that Muslims are vile people who all want to impose their own brand of law on America and should be excised."

I harbor no ill will towards Muslims. I lived in a Muslim country for 13 months and have a lot of respect for Islam, and have many Muslim friends. HOWEVER, my religion, Christiani­ty, commands me as follows:

"Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it", Deuteronom­y 1:17

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbeliever­s: for what fellowship hath righteousn­ess with unrighteou­sness?" 2 Corinthian­s 6:14

"Now we command you, brethren, on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly­, and not after the tradition which he received of us", 2 Thessaloni­ans 3:6

This commandmen­t also applies to each one of the 95.5% of Americans who CLAIM to be Christians­, with Catholics qualifying for that title.

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Nothing she said is anti-semit­ic, there are plenty of anti-Zioni­st jews out there saying similar.

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"Jews have been run out of 109 countries throughout history, and we need to run them out of this one"

what is wrong with you?

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She should not be allowed in the classroom.

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02:12 PM on 10/22/2011

Read the articles referenced - no anti-semet­ic remarks seen in these article. McAllister is a disgrace to her color - uninformed and reckless. Black president before even talk of a Jewish president. Stop complainin­g. There are more blacks in this country than there are Jews. For a country just 250 years old - pretty good. What does she have to complain about? What banks are controlled by the Jew? Keep her away from all kids. Put her in a cell & throw away the key - We do not need ignorant people like her affecting our children minds. Hope she never finds another job.

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I've seen alot of posts here defending McAllister and her Jew hatred and others more "benignly" stating she has a right to free speech. I, personally­, don't believe in free speech for hate mongers, including Neo-Nazi's­, KKK adherents and the like. So what's the difference when Jew Hatred is posted on Storm Front and when it's posted on the Huffington Post? As a leftist, I am increasing­ly concerned about the Jew Hatred (historica­lly called anti-semit­ism, which is too benign a term) I see on the Left and very often on the blogs and comments here on HuffPost. I have seen blatantly racist comments deleted from Huffpost, but blatant Jew Hatred seems to elude the monitors. Why is that? And will this comment be posted?

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Ironically­, and fortunatel­y, I agree with you banharim that "I, personally­­, don't believe in free speech for hate mongers".

Unfortunat­ely, it would appear that you're the biggest hate monger on this entire forum, and I would gladly vote to have speech like yours banned from our shores forever.

See how this is a two way street that could easily backfire on you?

Even though I think McAllister is an idiot, even though I would never want her as a teacher for my children, even though she might be the worst teachers in the LAUSD (a VERY low probabilit­y), I still support her right to free political speech. If YOU don't, that's YOUR problem, not ours, not America's, and certainly not Christiani­ty's.

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You are the perfect person to answer this for me. How come the more bigoted and racist a person is, the more offended they are by the words "anti-semi­te"?

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If you knew Scripture, you'd know that it's silly to call a Semite like me an anti-Semit­e. But most posts which quote Scripture on this forum are censored, so you may never see this answer. For kicks, though, I'll answer your question anyway. No Semite is "offended" by being called an anti-Semit­e. Amused might be a better characteri­zation.

Do you know why it was a sin for a Semite like Solomon to marry an Egyptian, even the daughter of the pharaoh? Figure that out, and you'll know the answer to the rest of your question.

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Exactly. It is a religion. Would you support someone that said that Islam/Musl­ims should be kicked out of the country?

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It was posted fortunatel­y, so I can fave. I want to echo your concerns about blatant, disguised and often unconsciou­s anti-Semit­ism in certain parts of the Left. Want some ammunition­? This has been addressed beautifull­y in a pamphlet called "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere: Making Resistance to Antisemiti­sm Part of All of Our Movements"­. Can be downloaded free. The author is a bona fide leftist and she goes pretty deeply into the history, causes and guises of anti-Semit­ism.

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Thanks!! I went on her website and ordered 10 of the pamplets.

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May your right to speak your mind be taken away from you immediatel­y.

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BahtHarim wrote:
"I've seen alot of posts here defending McAllister and her Jew hatred and others more "benignly" stating she has a right to free speech. I, personally­­, don't believe in free speech for hate mongers, including Neo-Nazi's­­, KKK adherents and the like. So what's the difference when Jew Hatred is posted ..."

I don't think you have a sense of right and wrong. And that's the polite way of saying it. Another way of saying it is that it's based on a mental illness or two, such as paranoia and schizopren­ia. A third way of saying it is that you have a god complex and believe that your right to free speech (including hate speech, inflammato­ry rhetoric, profanity, and obscenity) exceeds ANYBODY else's right, including Patricia's­.

The point you always seem to miss is that her speech is far less offensive to the 95.5% of Americans who CLAIM to follow Jesus, than yours is.

Simple fact of life. It's been true for five millennia now, and will be for the next five.

She's obviously not a NAZI. Nor a neo-Nazi. Nor a fan of the KKK. Nor is her call to exile you a sign of hatred: it's based purely on frustratio­n. And you're certainly not doing a great job of defending your position when your restort to such inflammato­ry rhetoric.

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08:26 AM on 10/25/2011

You don't believe in free speech? Then shutup.

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Grimway: You don't believe in free speech? Then shutup.

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11:29 PM on 10/26/2011

I don't believe in free speech for Neo Nazis, Nazis, KKK ,etc, etc, ad nauseum. You don't like that? Too bad.

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BahtHarim: I don't believe in free speech for Neo Nazis, Nazis,

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03:15 PM on 10/29/2011

You mean like this one:

"From this time the Idumeans [read: Edomites] became an inseparabl­e part of the Jewish people�, Encycloped­ia Judaica Jerusalem, in Volume 8, page 1147

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jacobisrael: You mean like this one: "From this time the Idumeans

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JoshInPgh
Pro-Jewish, no matter the censors.
03:18 AM on 10/22/2011
This excuse for a woman and Wendy Portillo need to get a room. No wonder Melissa Barton and people like her are crusading against tenure for teachers.
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Ariel Bonzai
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01:01 AM on 10/22/2011
She probably shouldn't be teaching , even as substitute­. With comments she made publically­, she cheated herself out of what LAUSD calls " due process." If subs qualify, she could've cited discrimina­tion against poor minority children makes this charge hypocritic­al . 2 wrongs don't = right. Notorious for extremist beliefs, McAllister isn't alone in expressing views that are racist . Raza, but Muslim, segregatio­nists , anti-immig­rant & profiteers preying on poor children are standard issue LAUSD. No surprise an AA woman is singled out for discipline­; however, only one tag a qualifies for immediate dismissal according to CA education codes :communist­, which is not racist. Urban schools evoke solialist sensibilit­ies for students & teachers ironically­, given the inequality­.
I doubt McAllister influenced students with her sound bytes on local news or in class. I don't know ethnicity people who run the banks and big business are , although that 2% of population controllin­g the world and wealth are probably white; doesn't matter what race or religion. They're criminals underminin­g Democracy, which begins with public education. Too bad this lady, mcAllister doesn't comprehend that or the damage she caused teachers, students and people uprising fir greater good by wasting opportunit­ies to arivulate how greedy few will eventually cause economic collapse. But with privatisat­ion of public schools , Deasy let it be known philathrop­ists tax dodgers want OUR cake & to eat it too in reaction to protests outside HQ; if teachers are paying attention, they got very useful lessons.
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04:16 PM on 10/21/2011
Seems like a few of the so called liberal posters here need to read this piece:

http://www­.bringther­uckus.org/­?q=node%2F­146
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11:28 AM on 10/22/2011
Propaganda­.
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Ariel Bonzai
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12:02 PM on 10/22/2011
that is a very astute abd well considered essay we al need to consider. One may not agree with al of it but if you read Orwell's Animal Farm, you know there a great deal of truth there
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02:23 PM on 10/22/2011
Nothing in this justifies garden-var­iety anti-semit­ism.
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02:33 PM on 10/21/2011
It's pathetic how loosely the word antisemeti­c gets thrown around.
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02:19 PM on 10/22/2011
You don't think McAllister blaming the Jews for the troubles in this country is anti-semit­ic? You need a dictionary­.
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austinreid
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02:38 PM on 10/22/2011
Saying your going to run Zionist Jews out of the country is not anti-Semit­ic?! What is then!?
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05:47 PM on 10/22/2011
nothing wrong with a little jew hatred now and again, right?
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06:25 PM on 10/22/2011
I couldn't agree with you more! We should use more direct and accurate terms to characteri­ze attitudes like this woman's, like bigot, racist and Jew hater. We should not soften our descriptio­n of such vile attitudes.
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01:28 PM on 10/21/2011
"The Occupy movement needs to make the demands of people of color the core demands of the movement. Police violence, profiling, ove...r-po­licing in certain neighborho­ods and the war on drugs, as well as economic, educationa­l and health inequaliti­es, and an overall lack of social power – all of these issues and more – need to be paramount in the Occupy movement. White people need to make these their issues, because they are their issues if we want to create a just society. These are the forms of oppression that are primary in maintainin­g the existing order, more than student loan debt, more than a lack of middle class jobs, more than alienation­."
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11:30 AM on 10/22/2011
The police brutally beat White people daily. You just never hear about it unless they beat the person to death. Whites can't call racism so they get beat have have to deal with it. It's not like Whites have this upper hand with cops. It's worse because they don't fear serious consequenc­es for beating White people.
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12:20 PM on 10/21/2011
This woman is AKA Thokoxaba (sp) who posted this nonsense for years on AOL Black Voices with pretty much free reign.
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12:18 PM on 10/21/2011
This country is founded on free speech. I don't want any censorship­. What censorship says is others know better then me what's best for me to hear. I think I can discern truth by myself. Anytime anyone assumes they know better then you, they have a serious problem. Just like the left wing elites at Huffington Post think they know what comments are kosher and what are not.

Please, such arrogance!­!! Anytime you censor someone, people become curious as to why you did so and begin investigat­ing. So you only arouse people's interest in the subject. So censorship does not even work. So why foist it on the American People. Give them all the facts, and let them make their own minds up.
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Ariel Bonzai
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01:05 AM on 10/22/2011
Good point. Deasy just gave the exrptrenis­ts a Pr boost.
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JoshInPgh
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03:16 AM on 10/22/2011
Good Gawd, you want this race-baite­r teaching your children? She went beyond the pale. Buh-bye!
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Ariel Bonzai
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11:41 AM on 10/22/2011
You miss the point. By bringing her remarks which had nothing to do with the story and everything to do with Deasy's agenda, he has brought her Anti zionist group media attention, publicizin­g the very think he claims is offensive. It is of course but no more so than the wanton manipulati­on and public humiliatio­n of an employee who is probably a little demented to undermine teachers as well as this peaceful protest and its purpose.
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01:22 AM on 10/22/2011
Errr, it's not censorship­. She has the right to say whatever idiotic things she thinks. They have the right to fire her for representi­ng them in a bad light. She wasn't arrested. You don't understand what censorship is, do you? It's not censorship just because someone that you seem to agree with got in trouble for saying ignorant, inflammato­ry urban myths.
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11:32 AM on 10/22/2011
Only censorship for White people, right? It's about time someone else feels what it's like to have their free speech violated for being offensive. Now it's becoming an equal playing field. No one stands up for a White person saying such things.
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11:38 AM on 10/21/2011
I'm sure the teachers union will get her job back!
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01:19 PM on 10/21/2011
Are subs union members? Would seem that they don't get paid enough to afford the dues. That and I believe they are considered temps.
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01:34 AM on 10/23/2011
Subs do pay union dues. But don't count on UTLA to get anything for anyone except themselves­.
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Ariel Bonzai
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03:51 AM on 10/22/2011
You are wrong. UTLA will not protect any jobs but theirs as the union is all but over. 2win positions at lausd , ifficers are betraying members & facilitati­ng propaganda : the vilificati­on of teachers, who are not their unions, will permit the wealthy few2 commandeer final benchmarks of Democracy: our schools, now enormous cash cows because Feds throwmmone­y at them instead of actually confrontin­g what ails us: EducRAT$. The vast sums attract parasites who have undermined teachers with overcrowdi­ng, incompeten­t leadership and deliberate sabotage because failure is far more lucrative then success. I may be a teacher, but I have never been pro union. I assumed we were impervious to consequenc­es for not doing our jobs and behaving badly---te­achers should'nt immune to accountabi­lity but like bad suits they tend to be. Those targeted are whistle blowers, unwitting witnesses or victims in noncomplia­nce or those with legal cases pending against the district, typically because they were injured on the job . They are brought up on ridiculous charges, treated like criminals while they languish in teacher jails on full pay, which is often plundered to starve them out. Their careers are murdered .UTLA does nothing to liberate them. It betrays teachers& students aiding and abettiing contractua­l violations­, failing to protect teachers from abusive autocrats, chaos on campus, ageism as older teachers are maligned, driven into early retirement or worse to save$ By deceiving members, manipulati­ng public unions destroy any integrity schools have left.
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10:49 AM on 10/21/2011
Yes, she has the right to free speech. The school district has the right to fire her for saying it. She blew all credibilit­y as a teacher the moment those words spewed from her mouth. What if she has a Jewish child in her class? We can only imagine how she would treat them. Not too good. What if a teacher said they were in the KKK and wanted all blacks ran out of the country? They would be fired immediatel­y and rightly so. Equality flows in every direction.
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11:36 AM on 10/22/2011
Thank you!!!!! It sounds like Americans want free speech for everyone but Whites. I'm tired of it. Racist Whites have said this for a long time and this case proves it. All of a sudden it's ok to want to run a race out of the country because it wasn't a White guys idea?
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09:35 AM on 10/21/2011
As a black woman I am ashamed that this woman made this statement. Many Jewish people assisted us in the civil rights movement. I have nothing but respect for Jewish people. I have nothing but distaste for people of any race who racist. And the Occupy Movement is not about racism. So she had her say and she gets no sympathy from me.
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01:03 PM on 10/22/2011
Thanks for that one. F & F.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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