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Patricia McAllister
Anti-semite?
"Jews have been run out of 109 countries throughout history, and we need to run them out of this one."
Why is it ok for Jews to claim that Wasps control Wall Street, but you can get FIRED for saying that Jews control Wall Street?
What do you think THAT means for YOUR right to free political speech which our Founding Fathers spilt BLOOD to protect? Isn't it self-evident that if you agree with the LAUSD to restrict her right to free speech, that YOU are NEXT?! Here's what Superintendent John Deasy stated today: As Superintendent of the Los Angeles Unified School District (LAUSD), I want to emphasize that we condemn the remarks made recently by Patricia McAllister. Her comments, made during non-work time at a recent protest rally, were her private opinions and were not made in the context of District services. At LAUSD, we recognize that the law is very protective of the freedom of speech rights of public employees when they are speaking as private citizens during non-working time. I further emphasize to our students, who watch us and look to us for guidance, to be role models and to represent the ideals by which LAUSD lives, that we will never stand for behavior that is disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory. As a day-to-day substitute teacher, Ms. McAllister was an at-will employee. As of today, she is no longer an employee of the LAUSD.
Oh, really? Why don't WE fire HIM for his foul mouthing (disrespectful, intolerant or discriminatory) of Patricia? I find his language to be far more disgusting than HERS!
Most people I know agree with her.
LAUSD Teacher Fired after Anti-Semitic Comment on Camera: MyFoxLA.com The following Tuesday, she was fired from her post as a substitute teacher. LAUSD superintendent John Deasy released a statement yesterday that emphasized the district's condemnation of McAllister's remarks and announced her dismissal. In the release, Deasy acknowledged her right as a citizen to air her views but emphasized a teacher's responsibility to serve as a role model for students.: Her comments, made during non-work time at a recent protest rally, were her private opinions and were not made in the context of District services. At LAUSD, we recognize that the law is very protective of the freedom of speech rights of public employees when they are speaking as private citizens during non-working time. UPDATE: The Anti-Defamation league released a statement on Wednesday applauding Superintendent Deasy and the LAUSD for taking a stand against McAllister's anti-semitic remarks. While the ADL acknowledges that McAllister's views represent just a tiny fraction of the Occupy Los Angeles movement, Los Angeles regional director Amanda Susskind notes, "regardless of how 'fringe' these statements may seem, they have found a large audience on the Internet, and should be denounced as loudly as possible as unacceptable expressions of anti-Semitism."
This clown Jeff Michael on Studio 11 LA JUST COULD NOT WAIT to shut her up, and kept on whining at Susan to try to get her to terminate the interview.
WHAT IS HE AFRAID OF? He then accused her of "hate", even though she SAID she hates no one.
THAT is unconscionable for a supposed TV "reporter".
The other clown they interviewed, PJ, said "there will always be signs that perpetuate hate".
Where in the .ell does it look to you like this HATE is coming from? Isn't it from the mouth of PJ herself!??
Testing Whether the Government has Violated
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payroll? (If not, the First Amendment generally will not apply and the
employee will be left to contractual or statutory remedies (e.g.,
"whistleblower" law), if any.) 2. Has the employee been punished for his or her speech in a non-trivial way, such as being discharged, demoted, or transferred? (If not, the courts are unlikely to consider the First Amendment claim.) 3. Did the expression for which the employee was punished relate to a matter of "public concern?" (If not, "absent the most unusual circumstances" (Connick), the courts will not consider the claim. Courts should look at the "whole record" to determine whether the expression concerns a matter of interest to the general public. Whether expression relates to a matter of public concern does not depend upon how it is communicated--whether privately or publicly.) 4. If the government says that it had additional reasons for punishing the employee that do not relate to the employee's expression on matters of public concern, would those additional reasons have resulted in the same punishment that the employee suffered? (Unless the expression on a matter of public concern was a "but for" cause of the punishment--but for that expression the employee would not have been punished as he or she was--the employee loses on the First Amendment claim. The government, however, has the burden of proof of showing that the other reasons would have produced the same punishment. Doyle) 5. If the employee's speech did relate to a matter of public concern, is the government's ability to "efficiently provide services" nonetheless adversely affected in a substantial way? (If so, the employee is out of luck.) 6. With respect to political affiliation of public employees, the Court asks whether party affiliation is an "appropriate requirement" for the position, taking into account such factors as whether the employee makes important policy decisions or is in a position to thwart the policy directives of superiors. If not, the First Amendment prohibits consideration of political affiliation in either hiring, promotion, or discharge decisions (Branti, Rutan). |
04:08 PM on 10/29/2011
I assume this teacher didn't have tenure.
Otherwise, it wouldn't be so easy to fire her just for expressing politically
incorrect opinions.
Count_Yob: I assume this teacher didn't
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09:03 AM on 10/26/2011
It is very sad to see how this particular
comment section has become a magnet for anti-Jewish bigots. Small minds,
immature mentalities, unwitting pawns of the true power structures. Amazing
that these throwbacks to the middle and stone ages exist in our time.
beninabox1: It is very sad to see how this
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01:15 PM on 10/26/2011
As Ferdinand Kronewetter once said,
antisemitism is the socialism of fools.
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05:38 PM on 10/26/2011
As the Governator once said: "I had to let
him go".
jacobisrael: As the Governator once said:
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11:12 PM on 10/26/2011
Got some boot-licking to do, Uncle Hymie?
JoshInPgh: Got some boot-licking to do,
Uncle Hymie?
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11:13 PM on 10/26/2011
I don't care what your name says, your
rhetoric proves that you are not a Jew, either by birth or by choice.
JoshInPgh: I don't care what your name
says, your rhetoric proves
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12:52 AM on 10/27/2011
Not sure at all what you're talking about
here. Pls explicate.
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talking about here. Pls
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06:33 PM on 10/28/2011
You want to define the phrase
"anti-semite" by quoting a Jew who clearly doesn't even know what a Semite is.
The Governator is an Austrian Jew who said "I had to let him go" when he dropped
the criminal off the cliff. The Governator's use of the English language is
just as misdirected as Kronewetter's is. There is no socialism, only
communism, and communism IS *for* fools, not "of fools".
Until you at least get this much of the English language correct, nothing you
say can make much sense to the 95.5% of us Americans who CLAIM to follow Jesus.
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"“You want to define the phrase
"anti-semite" by quoting a Jew who clearly doesn't even know what a Semite is.
The Governator is an Austrian Jew"
1. You must have me confused w/ someone else. I did not quote Schwartzeneggar.
Therefore you comment doesn't apply to me. But...
2. What's your proof that he's Jewish? Never heard this before.
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"Ferdinand Kronewette"
Is it possible you think this is 'the governator'??? If so, Google him.
beninabox1: "Ferdinand KronewetteÂ" Is it
possible you think this is 'the
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05:05 PM on 10/25/2011
First, I want to say this is a crazy person
who probably doesn't even know what Zionism means. That said, it's curious that
whenever someone is charged with antisemitism they are condemned, rightly, and
quickly made an example of, Galliano, Rick Sanchez, et al but when a charge of
racism is levied there is suddenly a debate about the meaning and intent of the
statement or action see: birtherism, Skip Gates, and everything Rush Limbaugh,
Glenn Beck and Pat Buchanan have ever said, the ultimate outcome often being
that the accuser is in fact the "real racist". Why is that?
ModernMisanthrope: First, I want to say
this is a crazy person
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12:46 PM on 10/26/2011
I think the term 'racist' was overused in
the '60s (Pat Moynihan was called racist for saying things that Bill Cosby now
says and anyone opposing affirmative action was labelled racist). We are
saddled with that legacy; it is impossible to come to an agreement on what the
word 'racist' actually means. It's more than bigotry, sometimes addressing
unequal outcomes regardless of intent. OTOH the term Anti-semitism never means
more than anti-Jewish hatred. Rush *has* gotten away with a lot of race
baiting, and suspect he is bigoted. It's a sign of sickness in our culture that
he is so popular and so rich. I used to listen to him (1990) just to hear an
opposing POV but he's gone off the deep and I now avoid everything associated
with him. Buchanan is in my mind bigoted and is dangerously close to those
standing up for 'white rights'.
One difference re consequences (being fired or not) is that they are not a
school who, in effect, represents the govt. He's a radio entertainer who's
salary the public does not pay. Still, Don Imus was indeed canned after his
remarks. Beck has been marginalized.
Rush's constituency sees no need to purge itself of racist elements. To the
extent that OWS and its supporters distance themselves from of the bigots, it
does itself credit. It's also in its self-interest: Jews have always been
overrepresented in progressive movements and anything that scares them away
deprives these movements of allies.
beninabox1: I think the term 'racist' was
overused in the '60s
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04:10 PM on 10/26/2011
Interesting. I concede that the definition
of racism has become problematic over the years but "misunderstood" more than
"overused" is how I'd describe it.From my pov there's never any confusion over
what or what isn't racist. Hence, I'm not constantly hurling accusations of
racism hither and yon. The problem is that too often the invariable response is
that X event wasn't racist BECAUSE there is no such thing as racism BECAUSE
Barack Obama, Oprah Winfrey, Will Smith. Full stop. It really is more
complicated than that, I'm afraid.
Anti-semitism seems pretty obvious: "Jews control A, Jews did B, Hitler was
awesome." and that sort of nonsense. But if say, only the black residents of a
neighborhood are targeted for predatory loans or the Justice Dept.
investigates "Operation Arrest Some Black People" or if as in Alabama recently,
two state politicians are caught on tape saying "we don't want black people to
be able to vote in this election" and someone mentions race then, invariably,
racism is the only thing that it CANNOT be the BECAUSE, see above. But if you
say Jews are interested a president that supports Israel's policies then you're
an anti-semite?
I caution against false equivalency, this one nut at an OWS rally is not the
same as going to a Tea party event and hearing from 90% of the crowd how Obama's
a muslim and foreign and "hates white people" and wants to "take the country
from the whites" etc.,etc.,etc.
ModernMisanthrope: Interesting. I concede
that the definition of racism has become
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05:46 PM on 10/26/2011
"I concede that the definition of racism
has become problematic over the years but "misunderstood" more than
"overused" is how I'd describe it."
The word has more meanings than there are humans on the planet, so sure it will
be misunderstood. So let's go back to H.G. Wells who coined that phrase, and
put it in it's proper context:
1934 H. G. Wells Exper. Autobiogr. I iii. 107 So much for the Hitlerite stage of
my development, when I was a sentimentalist, a moralist, a patriot, a racist".
Clearly the way the word has become a slur is exactly the opposite of how Wells
used it just 77 years ago.
Now, I wonder how THAT happened?
jacobisrael: "I concede that the definition
of racism has become problematiÂc
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07:40 PM on 10/27/2011
I'm not following the Wells connection or
the relevance. I'm not being cheeky. I honestly don't understand your point.
ModernMisanthrope: I'm not following the
Wells connection or the relevance. I'm
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06:00 PM on 10/28/2011
This word didn't exist for 5,000 years, not
even in English since it was founded, until about the time Wells coined the
phrase and equated being a racist to being a patriot. So now the way it's used
as a racist slur is exactly the opposite of his intended meaning. Don't know
exactly when it changed into a slur, but it sure wasn't until some time after
Wells coined it.
Now people call great men like Mr. Jefferson a racist even though the concept
didn't even exist then.
jacobisrael: This word didn't exist for
5,000 years, not even in
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04:10 PM on 10/25/2011
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First up:
Be it that this was first aired on ReasonTV YouTube, I have a deep suspicion
that this may have been a setup.
Although, in addition, when it comes to freedom of speech I am happy that we as
Americans have the right to free speech so as to be allowed to air our inner
thoughts of both likes and dislikes in both spoken and written word.
This simply freedom also allows us to weigh others personal opinions and their
perceptions of their world around them.
This also allows ME to know who to keep a wary eye on or who is simply crazier
than a loon and the knowledge whether or not to simply denounce and shun the
person and/or help the person seek proper medical assistance if they are truly
off the deep end.
I denounce what this woman has uttered, but I haven't an intimate enough
relationship with her so as to make a judgement on her mental state.
But, I must reiterate that I have a deep suspicion that this video may have been
a setup.
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Red_River_Rover: . First up: Be it that
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01:08 AM on 10/26/2011
She repeated her views on two other
interviews, with two other media outlets. It's pretty clear that Patricia Mc
Allister is a vile anti-Semite. Certainly, her opinion is protected by the
First Amendment but the freedom of speech (and expression) goes both ways.
Like you, I denounce her for her vile opinion.
BrianBrady: She repeated her views on two
other interviews, with two
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05:11 AM on 10/24/2011
On almost every youtube post about any
possible subject, somehow someone posts something about Jews. Jews seems to be
an obsession for millions. Jews are today's greeks or Athenians--hated for
their virtues as individualists, capitalists and intellectuals.
This woman had every right to say what she did. And her bosses have every right
to be disgusted with her, firing her on the spot. Freedom of thought, judgement
and speech runs in both directions.
Sh_Uesugi: On almost every youtube post
about any possible subject, somehow
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08:50 PM on 10/23/2011
I may not like what she said, and I agree
she should have lost a job in education over even if just as a sub.
However as much as I dislike it I would be willing to shed blood for her right
to say it. Freedom of speech has costs in that jobs can be lost due to words and
one can make themselves sound like a racist bigot such as this women. The cost
of not having that freedom of speech however is far greater then dealing with
the occasional idiot spewing out racist junk.
Many Jews like to compare this like what this woman said to the things that lead
to Nazi Germany. However we also have the freedom to speak out against her
racist remarks, in Nazi Germany that took away the right to speak out against
them without freedom of speech no one could speak up to stop what occurred
because to do so would result in the same fate as for them.
Freedom of speech means hearing things we do not like so that we maintain the
right to speak out against those racist, sexist, or other wise hateful views.
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said, and I agree
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06:04 PM on 10/23/2011
"Jews have been run out of 109 countries
throughout history, and we need to run them out of this one." This is blatantly
anti-semitic. People who espouse such hateful views should be not be educating
children.
CDGreene: "Jews have been run out of 109
countries throughout history,
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05:06 PM on 10/27/2011
Wow. So basically you think Jews are
responsible for all of the world's problems? Flagged.
CDGreene: Wow. So basically you think Jews
are responsible for all
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09:44 AM on 10/23/2011
For anyone who wonders why it is so
important for Israel to exist as a Jewish stat, you need only read this woman's
statement that "Jews have been run out of 109 countries.....and need to be run
out of this one;" and the comments posted here supporting her.
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03:12 PM on 10/25/2011
Would you prefer what Shakespeare
recommended: shoot all the lawyers first?
If I need to give up my right to free political speech (which MY Founding
Fathers spilt BLOOD to protect) just "for Israel to exist as a Jewish stat",
then I can think of one more BIG reason we should follow Gandhi and not you:
"Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the
English or France to the French. It is wrong and inhuman to impose the Jews on
the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral
code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely
it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine
can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home." Harijan,
26-11-1938.
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Shakespeare recommended: shoot all the lawyers
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03:36 PM on 10/26/2011
Your as bad at reading Shakespeare as you
are at analyzing the situation in the middle east.
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05:59 PM on 10/26/2011
Quoting Gandhi can hardly be viewed as
"analyzing the situation in the middle east." Having lived there for 13 months,
though, has given me a perspective which you will never see in the "news". But
that's not the point, and it would be interesting to know how you think
Jefferson and Shakespeare might have differed on their view of lawyers.
jacobisrael: Quoting Gandhi can hardly be
viewed as "analyzing the situation
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02:22 PM on 10/28/2011
Shouldn't "Your as bad at reading
Shakespeare as you are at analyzing the situation in the middle east." read:
"[You're] as [good] at [quoting] Shakespeare as you are at [quoting Gandhi on]
the situation in the [Middle East]."
And for this, we censor Patricia McAllister and raise you up as an intellect?
jacobisrael: Shouldn't "Your as bad at
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09:19 PM on 10/22/2011
I wonder if, instead of dumping on the
Jews, she had dumped on the Mormons over Prop 8, would she still have been
fired?
Jerry_Bourbon: I wonder if, instead of
dumping on the Jews, she
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02:52 PM on 10/24/2011
Yes.
forestcats: Yes.
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06:04 PM on 10/26/2011
Can you name even one American who was
fired for critiquing Mormans? Or Muslims? Or Christians, Whites, politicians,
teachers, policemen, etc.?
No.
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07:58 PM on 10/26/2011
yes. there's a case before SCOTUS involving
a teacher firing. The school board claims the teacher was fired for refusing to
follow church doctrine.
and there's an ongoing suit in Florida involving four board members of the
Islamic Center of Tampa who were fired in a disagreement over Islamic teachings
and applying them.
fuster: yes. there's a case before SCOTUS
involving a teacher firing.
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03:03 PM on 10/29/2011
fuster, your answer is completely
non-responsive. The question is which teacher was FIRED for critiquing anybody
besides Jews. Being fired for not following church (and specifically Christian)
doctrine SHOULD be the law of the land in this putative Christian nation. But
that has nothing to do with being fired for presenting what you think is a
TRUTH.
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06:19 PM on 10/29/2011
jacob, your comments border on blithering
nonsense and are incoherent as any type of substantial response or dialog.....
try re-reading what you've said which has drawn my replies and at least TRY to
follow a topic lest you be dismissed as non compos.
fuster: jacob, your comments border on
blithering nonsense and are incoherent
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23 minutes ago (1:22 PM)
"jacob, your comments border on blithering
nonsense and are incoherent as any type of substantia¬l response or
dialog....¬. try re-reading what you've said which has drawn my replies and at
least TRY to follow a topic lest you be dismissed as non compos. "
fester, if your ability to read is as bad as your ability to write, no matter
how I say it, you cannot possibly understand. Each of my posts have been
legible to the basest learner, accurate within nanoseconds of Scripture, and
without the grammar and spelling errors you've been afflicted with. It's you
Jews who claim that you WROTE Scripture, so of all people, you ought to know who
is and who is not a Semite (a descendant of Shem), and who is a descendant of
Ashkenaz. As most replies here have been censored, you may have missed some of
the missing pieces, so to be sure, specify exactly WHICH point is "blithering
nonsense and are incoherent" to you.
jacobisrael: "jacob, your comments border
on blithering nonsense and are incoherent
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08:12 PM on 10/26/2011
Try Michael Savage on MSNBC for anti Muslim
remarks.
Fred "Gopher" Grady from WMAL radio also for anti Muslin remarks.
There you go two for one out of my generosity. Those are the famous names, if
you need commoners Google them for yourself.
forestcats: Try Michael Savage on MSNBC for
anti Muslim remarks. Fred
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05:38 PM on 10/29/2011
"“Try Michael Savage on MSNBC for anti
Muslim remarks. Fred "Gopher" Grady from WMAL radio also for anti Muslin
remarks. "
Michael Savage was fired from MSNBC for saying: "get AIDS and die, you pig". The
caller was not a Muslim, he was gay.
Imagine saying "get AIDS and die, you pig" to Alan Dirshowitz.
"Mann-Grandy, who did a regular segment called "domestic terrorism 101," hit a
string of topics on their show last Friday. Though the segment was taken off the
radio's site, she described it. She said that, on air, she quoted a rabbi who
compared radical Muslims to Nazis, complained that President Obama was not doing
enough to help Israel, warned that "Shariah-compliant" individuals work in the
government and discussed several other Islam-related topics."
Read more:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/03/05/ex-rep-gopher-leaves-radio-pressure-islam-comments/#ixzz1cD1ClyDK
Not even Grady was fired, he resigned. It was not HIS comments for which he
resigned, it was his WIFE'S. And it was because she quoted Jews about Muslims,
not for insulting Muslims (which of course is perfectly acceptable).
Keep looking. You're not even close to answering that question.
jacobisrael: "�Try Michael Savage on
MSNBC for anti Muslim remarks. Fred
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09:16 PM on 10/26/2011
fuster,
He wanted someone who had been fired for critiquing a muslim or morman. The
muslim got fired for something unrelated. It's not even the same situation.
If a person would have got fired for berating a muslim, then you would have a
case. Right now, not so.
333Cathy: fuster, He wanted someone who had
been fired for critiquing
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02:30 PM on 10/28/2011
The lunatics are in charge of the assylum.
They defy normal people to even mention that the emperor has no clothes. They've
made it a crime without passing a law or changing the US Constitution. If you
defy this unwritten law, moderators, whose sheer presence requires a connection
to OUR internet, will censor you in defiance of their very OWN TOS.
Patricia McAllister claims she hates nobody. I see zero evidence of hate in her
demeanor, manner, speech, or actions. Yet the vast majority of the lunatics
automatically SCREECH "hate", shove their fingers deep into their ears, and
never hear ANOTHER WORD.
It truly is a mental illness. And I met a man just last night who's writtten a
simple computer program which proves that it all comes from ADHD and ADD.
What a hoot );
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Wait a minute! HuffPost told us that all
the anti-Semites are in the Tea Party!!! How did this happen?
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Its amazing how many people continue to
perpetuate the farce that what this person said is antizionism, not
antisemitic. This shows how absurd the whole distinction was to begin with.
What this lady said has nothing to do with zionism, nothing to do with the
Jewish nationalist movement for self-determination in Israel. It has nothing
to do with the Palestinians.
It is antisemetic bigotry that comes straight out of the protocols of the
elders of zion.
"When people criticize Zionists, they mean Jews. You're talking anti-Semitism.
" - I'm realizing more and more each day how this quote holds true.
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07:57 PM on 10/22/2011
Yes, and I'm sure it's just a coincidence
that George W Bush was an Episcopalian.
You don't see yourself very clearly do you.
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10:40 PM on 10/22/2011
gee Don - so we should start blaming all
the evil of people on their religion or just Jews?
h111aryc1inton: gee Don - so we should
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10:03 PM on 10/22/2011
Nice to see that Time Warner in Hawaii are
employing a person who feels comfortable making antisemitic statements.
You might be looking for new employment yourself soon.
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03:49 AM on 10/23/2011
Maybe if you were smarter you could be on
the list too!
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08:31 AM on 10/23/2011
Very good. Now quickly (no googleing) list
the ten most recent Nobel recipients that are, you know, THOSE people. Wow, it's
no wonder Patricia thinks we should run the Jews out of the Country. Yes Don, I
know you are such a critical reader that you will realize that my last sentence
was meant as sarcasm.
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10:39 PM on 10/22/2011
Very well said... f & f
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03:35 PM on 10/22/2011
In practice, the right to freedom of speech
is not absolute in any country and the right is commonly subject to
limitations, such as on libel, slander, obscenity, incitement to commit a
crime, etc.
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07:35 PM on 10/24/2011
So exactly where do you see libel, slander,
obscenity, incitement to commit a crime, etc.? The only slander I see is the
Jews' response to her. If it's a crime to call for the exile of a group, then
the American Revolution was in vain.
I think what you mean to say is that Jews have this right but Blacks don't. You
think it's ok for Jews to claim a Black woman teacher is a Nazi, but not ok for
Blacks to claim Jews run Wall Street.
I sure hope you're not the next author of the US Constitution.
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12:40 AM on 10/26/2011
--- If it's a crime to call for the exile
of a group, then the American Revolution was in vain.----
someone says to oust all the members of a religion from the United States, and
Jacob seems to think that the American Revolution was waged for just that
purpose.
of course, Jacob is correct and the Revolution was undertaken because we just
can't have too much ugly, ignorant religious intolerance.
I'm sure that Jacob himself often speaks of how the tea Party is right and that
Muslims are vile people who all want to impose their own brand of law on America
and should be excised.
And just as assuredly Jacob believes, right along with the No-Nothings that
Catholics can't be Americans and must be driven out like St Patrick drove the
snakes from Ireland because they owe all their allegiance to the Pope.
===really Jacob, get a grip. what the woman has to say is the rankest garbage
and her right to say it is assured no more than is the right of people to call
her a criminal and a creep.
fuster: --- If it's a crime to call for the
exile
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02:47 PM on 10/26/2011
fuster, I'm confident that if we were to
have a vote today to determine which (either you or Patricia) has the foulest
mouth, you'd be lucky if the other 1% picked you. Your right to be a foul mouth
on the internet will never exceed her right to free political speech no matter
how foul you get. Look it up. The American Revolution was ALL about religion,
and it was the Catholics who LOST. And a mere two centuries later, this once
greatest world and sea power was eating out of our hands, begging us hat in hand
to save them from the nasty Germans.
And now they're back, and somehow you think nobody should worry.
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02:53 PM on 10/29/2011
"I'm sure that Jacob himself often speaks
of how the tea Party is right and that Muslims are vile people who all want to
impose their own brand of law on America and should be excised."
I harbor no ill will towards Muslims. I lived in a Muslim country for 13 months
and have a lot of respect for Islam, and have many Muslim friends. HOWEVER, my
religion, Christianity, commands me as follows:
"Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well
as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is
God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear
it", Deuteronomy 1:17
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath
righteousness with unrighteousness?" 2 Corinthians 6:14
"Now we command you, brethren, on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye
withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after
the tradition which he received of us", 2 Thessalonians 3:6
This commandment also applies to each one of the 95.5% of Americans who CLAIM
to be Christians, with Catholics qualifying for that title.
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03:23 PM on 10/22/2011
Nothing she said is anti-semitic, there
are plenty of anti-Zionist jews out there saying similar.
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"Jews have been run out of 109 countries
throughout history, and we need to run them out of this one"
what is wrong with you?
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03:53 AM on 10/23/2011
She should not be allowed in the classroom.
mrskorn: She should not be allowed in the
classroom.
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02:12 PM on 10/22/2011
Read the articles referenced - no
anti-semetic remarks seen in these article. McAllister is a disgrace to her
color - uninformed and reckless. Black president before even talk of a Jewish
president. Stop complaining. There are more blacks in this country than there
are Jews. For a country just 250 years old - pretty good. What does she have to
complain about? What banks are controlled by the Jew? Keep her away from all
kids. Put her in a cell & throw away the key - We do not need ignorant people
like her affecting our children minds. Hope she never finds another job.
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12:55 PM on 10/22/2011
I've seen alot of posts here defending
McAllister and her Jew hatred and others more "benignly" stating she has a right
to free speech. I, personally, don't believe in free speech for hate mongers,
including Neo-Nazi's, KKK adherents and the like. So what's the difference when
Jew Hatred is posted on Storm Front and when it's posted on the Huffington Post?
As a leftist, I am increasingly concerned about the Jew Hatred (historically
called anti-semitism, which is too benign a term) I see on the Left and very
often on the blogs and comments here on HuffPost. I have seen blatantly racist
comments deleted from Huffpost, but blatant Jew Hatred seems to elude the
monitors. Why is that? And will this comment be posted?
BahtHarim: I've seen alot of posts here
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01:36 PM on 10/22/2011
Ironically, and fortunately, I agree with
you banharim that "I, personally, don't believe in free speech for hate
mongers".
Unfortunately, it would appear that you're the biggest hate monger on this
entire forum, and I would gladly vote to have speech like yours banned from our
shores forever.
See how this is a two way street that could easily backfire on you?
Even though I think McAllister is an idiot, even though I would never want her
as a teacher for my children, even though she might be the worst teachers in the
LAUSD (a VERY low probability), I still support her right to free political
speech. If YOU don't, that's YOUR problem, not ours, not America's, and
certainly not Christianity's.
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09:35 PM on 10/22/2011
You are the perfect person to answer this
for me. How come the more bigoted and racist a person is, the more offended they
are by the words "anti-semite"?
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03:12 PM on 10/29/2011
If you knew Scripture, you'd know that it's
silly to call a Semite like me an anti-Semite. But most posts which quote
Scripture on this forum are censored, so you may never see this answer. For
kicks, though, I'll answer your question anyway. No Semite is "offended" by
being called an anti-Semite. Amused might be a better characterization.
Do you know why it was a sin for a Semite like Solomon to marry an Egyptian,
even the daughter of the pharaoh? Figure that out, and you'll know the answer to
the rest of your question.
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Exactly. It is a religion. Would you
support someone that said that Islam/Muslims should be kicked out of the
country?
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02:15 PM on 10/22/2011
It was posted fortunately, so I can fave.
I want to echo your concerns about blatant, disguised and often unconscious
anti-Semitism in certain parts of the Left. Want some ammunition? This has
been addressed beautifully in a pamphlet called "The Past Didn't Go Anywhere:
Making Resistance to Antisemitism Part of All of Our Movements". Can be
downloaded free. The author is a bona fide leftist and she goes pretty deeply
into the history, causes and guises of anti-Semitism.
beninabox1: It was posted fortunately, so I
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05:57 PM on 10/22/2011
Thanks!! I went on her website and ordered
10 of the pamplets.
BahtHarim: Thanks!! I went on her website
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03:59 PM on 10/23/2011
Baht
May your right to speak your mind be taken away from you immediately.
333Cathy: Baht May your right to speak your
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07:22 PM on 10/24/2011
BahtHarim wrote:
"I've seen alot of posts here defending McAllister and her Jew hatred and others
more "benignly" stating she has a right to free speech. I, personally, don't
believe in free speech for hate mongers, including Neo-Nazi's, KKK adherents
and the like. So what's the difference when Jew Hatred is posted ..."
I don't think you have a sense of right and wrong. And that's the polite way of
saying it. Another way of saying it is that it's based on a mental illness or
two, such as paranoia and schizoprenia. A third way of saying it is that you
have a god complex and believe that your right to free speech (including hate
speech, inflammatory rhetoric, profanity, and obscenity) exceeds ANYBODY else's
right, including Patricia's.
The point you always seem to miss is that her speech is far less offensive to
the 95.5% of Americans who CLAIM to follow Jesus, than yours is.
Simple fact of life. It's been true for five millennia now, and will be for the
next five.
She's obviously not a NAZI. Nor a neo-Nazi. Nor a fan of the KKK. Nor is her
call to exile you a sign of hatred: it's based purely on frustration. And
you're certainly not doing a great job of defending your position when your
restort to such inflammatory rhetoric.
jacobisrael: BahtHarim wrote: "I've seen
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08:26 AM on 10/25/2011
You don't believe in free speech? Then
shutup.
Grimway: You don't believe in free speech?
Then shutup.
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11:29 PM on 10/26/2011
I don't believe in free speech for Neo
Nazis, Nazis, KKK ,etc, etc, ad nauseum. You don't like that? Too bad.
BahtHarim: I don't believe in free speech
for Neo Nazis, Nazis,
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03:15 PM on 10/29/2011
You mean like this one:
"From this time the Idumeans [read: Edomites] became an inseparable part of the
Jewish people�, Encyclopedia Judaica Jerusalem, in Volume 8, page 1147
jacobisrael: You mean like this one: "From
this time the Idumeans
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